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And Time Rolls On
The Savitri Devi Interviews

Edited by
R. G. Fowler

Savitri Devi (1905-1982) became known as the high priestess of “esoteric Hitlerism” for her unique synthesis of National Socialism, Hindu mythology, and the Indo-European cyclical view of history in her 1958 book The Lightning and the Sun. In 1978, Savitri Devi recorded ten hours of interviews on her life, her thought, and her experiences in the National Socialist movement both before and after World War II. These interviews are an ideal introduction to this brilliant and controversial thinker. Now, for the first time, the edited transcripts of these hard to find recordings are available to readers. This volume is published in commemoration of Savitri Devi’s 100th birthday, 30 September 2005.

“I embraced Hinduism because it was the only religion in the world that is compatible with National Socialism. And the dream of my life is to integrate Hitlerism into the old Aryan tradition, to show that it is really a resurgence of the original tradition. It’s not Indian, not European, but Indo-European. It comes from back to those days when the Aryans were one people near the North Pole. The Hyperborean tradition.”

“It suddenly dawned on me, sometime in April 1929 . . . and in Palestine of all places, that this foreign German leader who wanted all Germans in one state and wanted the abolition of the treaties of Versailles and Saint Germain, really wanted more than that, much more. And much more meaning: the freedom of Europe, the freedom of the Aryan race, from any kind of Jewish spiritual overlordship. He’s the one who’s going to free us from that. Well if he’s that, then he’s not only the Germans’ leader, he’s my leader too. Mein Führer. And from that day, I felt, not that I was becoming a National Socialist—I never became one—but that I had always been one, without knowing it. That’s what I felt. And I started thinking of going to Germany and joining the movement. It was the movement of liberation.”

“What I like about National Socialism is the idea of perfection. The idea that man should be perfect. There is a perfect type of each race. Every race should strive to its own perfect type. National Socialism is an Aryan racialism, but you could transpose it. I can very well imagine a non-Aryan, say a Japanese, having the same ideas as ours. . . . And that’s why if to be a religion, the basic principles of the doctrine have to be universal, I can say National Socialism is a religion.”

“I love all animals, especially felines. . . . The only creature that I cannot love is the stupid, average two-legged mammal who doesn’t think for himself. He’s supposed to think. He’s supposed to look upwards. Man in Greek is called anthropos. Now if you decompose the word anthropos, it means ‘the one who looks above.’ If he doesn’t look above, he’s no anthropos. He’s no man. And the majority of people who call themselves men, they are not men according to the Greek etymology of the word. A man is supposed to think.”

“I’m for a multi-racial world in which each race keeps to itself, in harmony with the other races. Like in a garden, you have flowerbeds of roses and flowerbeds of carnations and irises and different other flowers. They don’t intermarry. They stay separate, and each one has its beauty. . . . I’m against colonialism for the reason that colonialism infects the master as well as the slave. It even infects the master more.”

About the Editor:

R.G. Fowler is Archivist of the online Savitri Devi Archive (

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ISBN: 0-9746264-3-0
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Editor’s Preface


1. Autobiography

Early Recollections
Greek Nationalism
Four Wars
The Discovery of National Socialism, 1923-32
India, 1932-39
Asit Krishna Mukherji
World War II, 1939-45
Return to Europe, 1945-46 (PDF)
Iceland, 1946-47 (PDF)
Propaganda Missions in Germany, 1948-49
Arrest and Interrogation, 1949
Werl and Hertha Ehlert, 1949
Trial and Imprisonment, 1949 (PDF)
Return to India, 1957-60
Back to Europe, 1960-71
Last Years in India, 1971-78

2. Comrades

German Comrades
The Cotswolds Camp, 1962
George Lincoln Rockwell
The End of the Cotswolds Camp (PDF)

Colin Jordan, John Tyndall, and Françoise Dior
Immigration and Miscegenation
Matt Koehl

3. Religion

On Christianity

Greek Orthodox Christianity
Christianity and Nationalism
International Religions and Race-Mixing
Robert Ambelain on Christianity
Christianity as Man-Centered
Christianity and Intolerance (PDF)

On Hinduism

Hinduism and National Socialism (PDF)

Human and Animal Sacrifice

Human Sacrifice
The Immolation of Cats

The Jews

The Jews as Instruments of the Dark Age
Alexandrian Judaism

4. Life in the Kali Yuga

The Nature of History
The Significance of Adolf Hitler
Knowing the Future
The Example of the Führer
Baby Seals
Sex, Marriage, and Family Life (PDF)
Aryan Solidarity
Anthropos and Misanthropy
“The” Holocaust
The Idealistic versus the Appetitive
Multi-Racialism and Colonialism

5. “1953”

Appendix: “1953” in German



About the Authoress

208 pages
Printed on acid-free paper.

No animal products were used in the production of this book